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Absolutely.

What was his kind of early impact like?

I know he's a five-year guy,

as some of these guys, you know,

have been with the pandemic and extra eligibility and NIL even and things of that nature, though.

Jordan had a very specific reason for going back to school in 2023.

But what was kind of his early impact like at EU?

I mean, it took some time for him to get going.

You know, he was very raw coming out of high school.

And look, the guy joined a program that had lost like 20 games in a row. I mean, Arizona

football was as bad as it gets. And he stayed with it, which is got to go back to my point

before, you know, one of the reasons why everyone loves him. But he was a little raw at first.

You know, he wasn't, I would say that when I watched him as a, as a freshman, I didn't say to

myself like, man, this is a first round draft pick. I think it took a couple years and you started

watch him and watch him develop and see that, you know, he kept getting better, which is always key. A lot of times when you watch these guys that go high in the draft,

are they keep getting better?

Like, how high is their ceiling?

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