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Three, two, one. What's going on, everybody? Welcome into an all new episode of the Packaday podcast, along with Packers Wire. I'm your host, Andy Herman. You can follow me on Twitter at Andy Herman NFL. And joining me once again is the one and only Paul Brettel. You can follow him on Twitter at Paul underscore Brettel. Paul, how the heck are you doing? I'm doing fantastic,

Andy. Looking forward to talking Packers after a big win, big time win on Thanksgiving.

Yeah, I'm still very giddy as well. That's kind of the game that I've been waiting for and just

wanting to see, you know, out of this team. And it's one of those things that prior to the season,

I said at some point they're going to get a couple wins or a win against a team that

people weren't expecting. I said there's probably going to be a couple of the reverse along

the way where they have a devastating loss against some team that they weren't expected to lose to.

I think we've seen a little bit of both of those things now, but that was like the one where you really felt all right this is a good

team on the road national audience and you go back and rewatch the game there's no flukiness here

there's nothing that would have said like oh if the ball bounces the other way Detroit wins this

season no it's the other way if a ball bounces the other way a couple of times like green bay wins

this like 43 to 14 so i'm still super pumped about just the way that they played.

And really over the last month, just the improvement that they've shown overall.

Yeah, we're finally seeing that growth, that progress that we've all been waiting for.

And one just quick thing I'll say about that game that obviously Jordan loves performance,

but beyond just the numbers and what we saw, what was truly encouraging for me was that he

did it without a run game to lean on. We talked about it. I know many did lead up to that game.

Like attacking the lions on the ground to begin with is not going to be the best strategy, but Packers haven't

been a good rushing offense.

Shorthanded at the running back position, Matt Lefleur said, we all kind of had the idea.

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