From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is The Business.

The Daily Show's Jordan Klepper has made a lot of comedy by interviewing voters at Trump rallies.

Given today's political climate, that means putting himself at risk.

I want to be able to talk to people. I'm an improv comedian, so it is wild that an improv comedian needs an army of security guards to ask questions, but hey, so is 2024.

Of course, he could do his part.

I got to start working out.

That is crucial.

I think if I was able to do more than seven push-ups, I'd probably have half the number of security guards.

Taking a cue from those

MAGA crowds, Eric Deggins and I team up on Klepper, who recalls some of his diciest moments on the job.

And he explains how the Daily Show has evolved in the decade he's worked there. But first we banter.

Stick around. It's the business from KCRW.

I am joined this week by Lucas Shaw, who's pinch-hitting for Matt Bellany, who is off sunning himself somewhere.

Hello, Lucas.

Hey, Kim. Great to be here.

Thanks for coming. I want to talk about a story you wrote a couple weeks ago about Apple, because this is something we have not bantered much about at all.

But you wrote about how Apple is starting to cut back on the spending.

Yeah, I mean, Apple has been sort of the exception to the rule in Hollywood over the last few years where you've seen

most of the companies pulling back. It seemed that they were still willing to spend any amount

of money. They had a master's of the air. The show debuted at the top of the year that they spent

$250 million on one of the most expensive television shows ever made. They've invested nine

figures in movies from kind of a who's who of filmmakers, these passion projects, from Martin

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