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The Vergecast

Jony Ive's funky Ferrari

The Vergecast

Vox Media Podcast Network

Tech News, Technology, News

4.34.3K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2026

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

The Ferrari Luce is here, and suffice to say it is not the electric Ferrari anyone expected. Nilay and David dig into the Jony Ive-designed car, from its marvelously appointed interior to its decidedly non-Ferrari-like exterior. (You might even call it... Nissan Leaf-like.) After that, the hosts discuss some of the latest backlash against AI, Google's ongoing AI-based changes to Search, and AI content labels. Finally, in the lightning round, it's time for Brendan Carr is a Dummy, some deeply nerdy display tech, and the incredible rising price of everything. Further reading: ⁠Ferrari reveals its first EV, with design help from Jony Ive ⁠ ⁠Jony Ive’s Ferrari looks nothing like a Ferrari ⁠ ⁠This Ferrari should have been a Volkswagen ⁠ ⁠Ferrari’s stock plummets after disappointing Luce unveil. ⁠ ⁠‘If I were to say what I think, I would be hurting Ferrari.’ ⁠ ⁠All the news about Ferrari’s polarizing Luce EV⁠ ⁠YouTube is putting AI labels where you’ll actually see them⁠ ⁠People sure do hate Google’s AI Search updates.⁠ ⁠Pope Leo warns of the risks of AI in major papal document ⁠ ⁠The Pope isn’t AGI-pilled ⁠ ⁠Did the Pope use AI to write about the dangers of AI? ⁠ ⁠Sony’s first RGB TV is a statement piece⁠ ⁠Facebook launches a ‘Plus’ subscription that gives you extra features ⁠ ⁠Valve raises Steam Deck prices by more than $200 ⁠ ⁠It’s not stopping any time soon. ⁠ ⁠The golden age of handheld gaming is already over⁠ Subscribe to The Verge for unlimited access to theverge.com, subscriber-exclusive newsletters, and our ad-free podcast feed.We love hearing from you! Email your questions and thoughts to vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11. ((Timestamps are approximate.) 00:01:00 Intro 00:02:00 Daily Vergecast Era 00:03:00 Ferrari First EV 00:06:00 Why Luce Looks Wrong 00:07:00 Media Junket Ethics 00:08:00 Apple Car Vibes Inside 00:10:00 Comparisons to Leaf 00:13:00 Ferrari Legend Backlash 00:16:00 EVs Should Feel Normal 00:19:00 Cadillac EV Counterpoint 00:23:00 Jony Ive Constraints Debate 00:30:00 Anti AI Search Shift 00:32:00 Google Search Randomness 00:37:00 Beta Testing Users 00:42:00 Personalized Buying Future 00:45:00 Bad AI Products Everywhere 00:46:00 YouTube AI Labels 00:49:00 Auto Detection Doubts 00:51:00 Ads Versus AI Opt Out 00:52:00 Pope On Humanity 00:55:00 Uber Questions Productivity 01:03:00 Brendan Carr’s Hard Hat 01:07:00 Meta Subscription Squeeze 01:14:00 Sony RGB Backlight TVs 01:19:00 Roku Home Screen Ads 01:21:00 Gaming Prices Spike 01:26:00 Wrap Up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:31.2

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0:32.8

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0:47.4

Hello and welcome to the Vergecast, the flagship podcast of Vox Media.

0:52.0

Again, every week for the last time for the foreseeable future I'm your friend

0:59.8

David Pierce Nelai Patel is here what's up if you if you haven't been watching this podcast on

1:05.4

YouTube recently I encourage you to watch it once only for the just unbelievable studio glow-up that Nelai continues to undergo. We added one light on the advice of a video professional instead of me just yoloing it myself, and now I look incredible. It's literally, like, it hurts my feelings, how good you look on. And the people have been noticing. Like, don't get it twisted. The people have been noticing. Every time someone says, I look hot, I send it to Becky, and she just says, don't get ahead of yourself. It's good. We all need, we all need to have our things going for us. We have a lot of stuff to talk about. There's a, there's a new Ferrari that I'm confident we're going to spend somewhere between two and three hours having feelings about. Speaking of things that think they're hot but aren't.

1:47.8

Nilay Patel, the Ferrari luce of the Vergecast.

1:51.3

We're going to get into that and why that's the meanest thing I've ever said to you in very short order.

1:57.5

We got Brendan Carr to talk about.

1:58.7

We got a lot of stuff to talk about.

2:00.3

Also, real quick, this is the end got a lot of stuff to talk about. Also, real

2:01.0

quick, this is the end of a Vergecast era. As of Monday, we become a daily show, and it's

2:06.5

important to me that everybody knows that essentially nothing is going to change.

2:10.7

So much of our news lately is like nothing will change. Yeah. We remain the Vergecast. We have a really

2:15.2

fun slate of stuff set up for next week.

2:18.3

You will see, I promise, how much we are committed to this continuing to be the Verge cast, even as we do more of it and get to move faster and try new things. It's all going to be very exciting. But we remain the Verge cast. I've heard some people who are like, David, don't ruin the show, which is also a fun fact,

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