Welcome to the Intercooler podcast.

Hi everybody, welcome back to the Intercooler podcast. It's episode 262 with Dan

Proser and Andrew Frankel and what a privilege it is to be joined this week by Jonathan Williams,

son of course of Sir Frank Williams as everyone will know, founder of Williams

Racing team principal of the Williams F1 team for more than 40 years.

Jonathan, brilliant to have you here and thanks so much for coming into the studio.

Thank you. Thank you for having me. It's a pleasure.

And we're, Andrew, we're just really looking forward to talking about Williams, the racing team, Frank Williams, one of Formula One's great figures, really.

Yeah, I just wonder whether, can we start with your, with your dad?

Of course. Just tell us about him, because he just strikes me as being, given that all that he went through,

both personally and professionally, given the slog he had, you know, right from the early days,

I suspect from before you were born, to get his team up and running.

And, you know, terrible things like, you know, the death of peers' courage and how that must have

affected him.

He just strikes me as being the last person in the world ever to want to quit anything at all

that he felt was worthwhile doing.

I think probably that is a very strong summary.

And I think no more such than the road car accident in 1986 and I think to come back from that but as you say prior to that the

ascendancy through Formula One aiming for the top eventually getting to the top and in very

very difficult days but I think from a very early age, the idea of not just

of everything being about racing. A racer was sort of an early nickname that perhaps he had for

himself and he would have for a close few others. And I've always thought that that is one word

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