I'm Rachel Bell, and this is your last meal.

The show where celebrities share stories about the foods they love most, and we dig into

the history, culture, or science of those meals with experts from around the world.

Today on the program, Jonathan Russell, lead singer and co-founder of The Head in the Heart.

Been talking about the way things change.

And my family lives in a different state.

Jonathan tells me the psychological reason why he likes seafood boils and why the head in the heart started seeing a therapist together.

And if you are an introvert who gets a little anxiety around social occasions,

you won't want to miss this episode.

My friend Ros Ray joins the show to talk about her excellent strategies for navigating parties.

That is coming up later in the show.

But first, my conversation with Jonathan Russell.

Rivers and roads, rivers. later in the show. But first, my conversation with Jonathan Russell.

Rivers and roads, rivers and roads, rivers till I reach you.

When we talk about food, we often talk about bringing people together, using food as the catalyst to create community,

gathering around a table, literally and metaphorically breaking bread.

But none of that has ever really resonated with Jonathan Russell.

I'm still trying to come to terms with like people and I agree with it when I hear it,

but like the community around eating and the social thing.

And it's like, I know that that's true.

Like, I believe you when you're saying that.

But I just have, like, I just still have, like, anxiety around eating around people.

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