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So Chris, So Christmas is three weeks from Wednesday, very short window this year,

and the Hallow app is kicking off its Advent Pray 25 challenge.

Our theme for this Advent is John 316.

It reminds us, for God so loved the world that he gave his only son so that everyone who believes in him might not perish, but might have eternal life.

Actor and narrator Jonathan Rumi joins us now.

He plays Jesus, of course, in the hit series The Chosen

and is one of Hallow's main narrator, actor, and spokespeople.

Jonathan, great to have you back on the program.

Thank you so much for joining me.

You know, I thought it was so interesting.

It says, Hallow says, we start by reflecting on the heartbreakingly deep

and beautiful meaning of John 316. And this is something that, you know, some people just see

written on people's front lawn or on a football helmet. Why is it so heartbreakingly deep and

beautiful these words? I think because of what it represents the sacrifice that Jesus made on behalf of humanity

is essentially epitomized in John 316.

And I think when we consider the Christmas story, you know,

it's essentially a story of vulnerability and risk. And that's what the

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