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🗓️ 15 October 2025
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Mahler walks us through The Gods of New York: Egotists, Idealists, Opportunists, and the Birth of the Modern City, 1986–1990—how a late-'80s crucible of crime, crack, and tabloids minted characters like Spike Lee ("the coolest guy in America"), Al Sharpton, Donald Trump, Ed Koch, and Rudy Giuliani. We revisit Howard Beach, Yusuf Hawkins, Do the Right Thing, and the media ecosystem that turned norm-breaking into power, alongside the policy tradeoffs (SROs, development, homelessness) that still echo today. It's a brisk tour of the years when New York became the prototype for how America lives now. Plus: how to read diplomatic reporting—and why Hamas yielded when its only real leverage was other people's bodies.
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| 0:00.0 | It's Wednesday, October 15th, 2025 from Peach Fish Productions. |
| 0:07.0 | It's the gist. |
| 0:08.0 | I'm Mike Peska. |
| 0:09.0 | How to read diplomatic reporting trying to figure out how this Hamas deal, this Israel Hamas hostage |
| 0:17.0 | deal went down. |
| 0:18.0 | New York Times today. |
| 0:19.0 | Actual paper wasn't an actual paper. Wouldn't sound like this. |
| 0:21.6 | Ultimately, the two sides more or less split the difference, Arab officials said. |
| 0:25.6 | Israel would hold on to much more territory than Hamas wanted it to, but it would pull out of many built-up areas. |
| 0:32.6 | Hamas grudgingly accepted the compromise, meaning Hamas gleefully accepted the compromise. |
| 0:41.2 | Does grudging acceptance characterize anything that you know about Hamas later on in the story? |
| 0:46.1 | There is this quote from Steve Whitkoff, which gets exactly at the main question I've been having, |
| 0:52.4 | which is, why would Hamas give up the hostages? That was the |
| 0:56.4 | only leverage they had. But Whitkoff is saying they were almost looking at the hostages less as an |
| 1:02.2 | asset and more as a liability. So allowing for the fact that Whitkoff might be exaggerating or |
| 1:09.6 | misreading things or just lying to us in the |
| 1:12.2 | press for some reason, it's beginning to be clear that the hostages were not this shit, |
| 1:19.0 | this Trump card, no pun intended, this shield, they were, in fact, a magnet. |
| 1:25.2 | Which gets us a little further down in questioning the idea that this was |
| 1:30.1 | a genocide, the intention of Israel was a genocide. This gets us to reexamine that precept, because |
| 1:39.1 | if it was a genocide, what would the stated claim of getting the hostages? How would that play into their real |
| 1:46.9 | aim, which was a genocide? And remember, in order to find something a genocide, it has to be |
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