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And it's John Gibbons for the Anfield Vap and I'm joined over Zoom by Jonathan Lou.

Just in reaction to something Jonathan vote yesterday, I'm sure as sports fans you'll have seen

the news coming out the French Open around Naomi Osaka and her deciding

that she had to pull out to the French open.

As usual, the best thing on this was written by Jonathan.

So we have Jonathan here on Zoom to talk about it a little bit further,

but also to explore some of the things that Jonathan talked about it in a little bit more detail.

So Jonathan, thanks so much for coming on the Zoom this morning.

Thank you for having me.

It's an interesting area. It's an interesting take that you sort of put on it. I think in this instance the

Amphibio app has the class itself, classified itself as the media. We try and go for both lines pretty much when it suits us but I think it is fair

for us to classify ourselves as media on this one and I guess you know the question is

to quote David Mitchell are we the

badies? Well I mean obviously it is a lot more um it's a lot more nuanced

than that because you know there were obviously great people in the media

doing great work and there are a load of people who you know for one of the better word are kind of

parasites doing very little useful and very little useful work and actually doing quite a lot of

harm not just to the people they're writing about but to the profession, you know, capital

T, capital T.

So, you know, it's a mixed picture.

I think what a lot of journalists,

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