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This is really a pleasure. So I want to start off by asking you sort of some off the beat and track questions about your background. I like to find out where people are coming from before we delve into their ideas. So what exactly is your, you've become very politicized, a lot of

folks in politics, very interested in what you have to say. Your books were first recommended to

me by a high-ranking Republican official. What is your political background? Where do you stand

politically? And how did you get there? Well, I'm a totally stereotypical, northeast Jewish,

liberal, academic type. That's my background. I grew up hating, well,

Richard Nixon when I was a little kid because I knew you're supposed to hate Nixon. And then Reagan,

I began studying cultural psychology in graduate school, looking at how nations vary in their

moral worldviews. And then as the, when the Democrats lost in 2000, and then again in 2004, I began, I was very

upset and I said, I can't stand it that the Democrats don't know how to talk about morality,

and I can help them. And so I started converting my research over my research from how countries vary to how left and right vary.

Because by then, left and right in this country, we're becoming like different countries with different U.S. history and even, you know, different constitutions.

And so I committed to understanding conservatives so that I could help explain conservative morality.

And in the course of reading, conservative and libertarian philosophy and ideas, I realized, oh my God, you actually have to look at problems from different perspectives to understand them.

Over time, I kind of stepped out. I still, we can talk about the Republican Party later. I have very little

good to say about the Republican Party, but I no longer identify as being on any team. I study moral

psychology. I'm a social scientist. And I think as a social psychologist, if you're doing social

science, it's really helpful to not be on a team, to have the independence to just try to study

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