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Tom Rowland Podcast

Jonathan Gluck | Author of “An Exercise in Uncertainty” | Ep. #986

Tom Rowland Podcast

Waypoint TV

Wilderness, Sports, Health & Fitness

5899 Ratings

🗓️ 30 July 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

This week on the Tom Roland podcast, I sit down with John Gluck, the author of 'An Exercise in Uncertainty.' We dive deep into discussions about fishing, life, and John's incredible journey battling Multiple Myeloma—a rare blood cancer.  Diagnosed with only 18 months to live, John has now thrived for over 21 years, thanks in part to breakthrough treatments and his passion for fishing. We also explore how fishing became a therapeutic escape for John, the power of mindset in overcoming challenges, and the role of family and career in his ongoing battle.  Tune in to hear this inspiring story and learn from John's experiences. You can also buy Jonathan’s book, “An Exercise in Uncertainty” wherever books are sold.  00:00 Introduction and Greetings 00:18 Fishing in Idaho and Jackson 00:47 The Glory Days of Fishing 01:16 Challenges of the Salmon Fly Hatch 02:54 Introducing the Book: An Exercise in Uncertainty 03:17 John's Illness and Diagnosis 03:51 Fishing as a Lifeline 04:47 Writing and Fishing Adventures 08:17 Career and Writing Focus 10:23 The Diagnosis Journey 18:26 Coping with Uncertainty 26:02 Purpose and Priorities 29:10 Fishing Dreams and Realities 33:25 Reflections on Health and Life 35:42 Facing Mortality and Embracing Life 36:45 Dealing with Remission and Relapse 39:22 Finding Solace in Fishing 42:36 The Role of Diet and Exercise 44:56 Advice for Cancer Patients 48:08 Writing the Book: A Journey of Reflection 53:53 The Importance of Mindset 01:05:08 Publishing and Promoting the Book 01:13:12 Final Thoughts and Future Plans 🚀 Special Thanks to Our Sponsor: Star brite https://bit.ly/TomRowlandPodcast 👋 Stay Connected with Tom Rowland: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tomrowlandpodcast Website & Show Notes https://bit.ly/3O4lgn0 Text: +1 (305) 930-7346 Email: [email protected] 🔗 Explore More: All Socials and Links https://linktr.ee/TomRowlandPodcast 🎥 Discover More of Tom’s Shows: Saltwater Experience https://bit.ly/4by096g Into the Blue Fishing https://bit.ly/48VZYju Life on the Water https://bit.ly/3Pp9rbs

Transcript

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Hi, I'm John Gluck, the author of An Exercise and Uncertainty, and this is the Tom Rowland podcast.

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