Welcome to the Eric Matax Show.

You know they say it's a thin line between love and hate, but we're working every day

to thicken that line.

Or at least make it a double, even triple line.

Now here's your line jumping host, Eric Matax's.

My goodness.

Thank you, Todd.

Ladies and gentlemen, as you know this is the show about everything.

Typically, I talk about the same thing over and over.

The West Judeo Christian values.

At least those things are at the core of what makes me tick.

I have for this hour, as the late Charlie Rose used to say, the joy of speaking with Jonah

Goldberg, you probably know him from National Review.

He's of course appeared on TV many times.

He has a new book out just out a couple of months ago.

A big book.

I say big, not only messy, but also important.

The title of it is Suicide of the West, how the rebirth of tribalism, populism, nationalism,

and identity politics is destroying American democracy.

Jonah Goldberg, welcome to the program.

It's great to be here.

Thanks for having me.

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