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Hey John, it's Kirk, how you doing?

Good, how are you doing?

Good, all right.

So yeah, so I wanted to have you on.

This is John Vaughan for the people listening.

So I grew up in, in, in, in still live in Massachusetts, John, you were part of the,

like I was like one of the 200 people that watched the Patriots when you were there before they became the Belly Shy Patriots.

I guess I was in those metal seats at Foxboro Stadium on Rua.

This is a while like before we get to the, the, the, the real stuff here.

It must be crazy for you to watch what the Patriots have become.

I mean, you are, first of all, you're a great college back and you had some, some good games of the Patriots,

but I mean, when you were here, it was some mean times, huh?

Yeah, yeah, what, 6 and 10, 214?

Yeah, was that, was that like the McPherson?

Yeah, McPherson experiment.

And then scar, it's scar, who was Scarecchi there for some of the games and.

Oh, Dante, yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was my, uh, uh, special teams coach and tiny in coach.

Yeah, yeah.

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