It's the Ross Tucker football podcast.

Oh, yeah, it is, but it's not just any Ross Tucker football podcast.

It is a wisdom Wednesday presented by draft Kings and we're going to get all kinds of

wisdom from longtime NFL offensive lineman whose son is now an NFL offensive lineman,

who has been the NFL's vice president of the policy and rules administration for five years now

really looking forward to talking with John Runyon momentarily enjoyed watching him as a

player both before I was in the league and then while I was a player, he played the position the way

I believe it should be played. So get the John momentarily. I think you guys know we're only two days

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All right, as promised, we are joined by John Runyon and I remember John, I'm in a lot to get

to with you, but I remember when you first got hired as the vice president of the policy and rules

administration, probably like a lot of people, I kind of chuckled because when you played,

you were you played on the edge, you know, you probably got some fines, you probably got some

FedExes. So is it a deal where it's like the FBI or whatever that they hire the drug dealers or

the DEA, they hire the drug dealers to help them help them catch the criminals? Yeah, I would say that

I kind of jokingly obviously if you want to burn your house down who do you call you call the

Fire Marshall, right? They know all the loopholes and like you said, I was like playing on the edge

and that line changes and it's changed a lot and I'm sure we'll get into it, but knowing where

that is and in my career got pulled back on me a little bit and you know, I do adapt to it. So

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