Jon Ronson on Empathy, Culture Wars, and Finding Community
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🗓️ 12 February 2022
⏱️ 66 minutes
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Summary
Ryan talks to author and filmmaker Jon Ronson about how to balance empathy and compassion with finding the truth, the importance of policing your side of the street to fight radicalization, the lack of connection in modern culture, and more.
Jon Ronson is an award-winning writer and documentary filmmaker. He is the author of many bestselling books, including So You’ve Been Publicly Shamed, The Psychopath Test, and The Men Who Stare at Goats. His latest work is a Radio 4 and BBC Sounds podcast series entitled, Things Fell Apart, which covers unexpected human stories from the history of culture wars.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the weekend edition of the Daily Stoic. Each weekday we bring you a meditation |
| 0:09.6 | inspired by the ancient Stoics, something to help you live up to those four Stoic virtues |
| 0:14.9 | of courage, justice, temperance and wisdom. And then here on the weekend we take a deeper |
| 0:21.0 | dive into those same topics. We interview Stoic philosophers, we explore at length how |
| 0:28.5 | these Stoic ideas can be applied to our actual lives and the challenging issues of our |
| 0:34.7 | time. Here on the weekend when you have a little bit more space when things have slowed |
| 0:40.4 | down, be sure to take some time to think, to go for a walk, to sit with your journal |
| 0:46.7 | and most importantly to prepare for what the week ahead may bring. |
| 0:52.7 | Let's say you love sports, but are also, you know, a busy person. |
| 0:56.4 | You want to know the latest sports news, but don't want to sit through a two hour podcast. |
| 1:01.0 | Alright, if we're talking about you right now, then check out the new podcast from Wonder |
| 1:04.9 | me. Listen to the lead starting five on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 1:12.6 | I just, I love John Rothsons work. I've read a ton of his books and I've recommended his |
| 1:21.1 | books to a ton of people. He's just, he's, as I talk about in today's interview, he's |
| 1:26.9 | just got a delightful tone and style and voice. And he manages to pick the most interesting |
| 1:35.0 | subjects and make them accessible and eye opening. His book, Them Adventures with Extremists |
| 1:45.1 | is unfortunately quite timely as he studies conspiracy theorists and why they act the way |
| 1:50.8 | they do. His book, The Men Who Stare at Goats was turned into a delightful movie with George |
| 1:56.2 | Clooney. His book, The Psychopath Test, also very, very good. But of course, I think his |
| 2:02.6 | best and most relevant book, which is one I also carry here at the Painted Porch, is |
| 2:09.6 | so you've been publicly shamed, which looks at our online culture, why we react the way |
| 2:16.6 | we do to people, why we gather in mobs, back to the Stoics Times and to the online times, |
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