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Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

Jon Mooallem & Elmore Leonard

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

Jesse Thorn

Society & Culture

4.52.6K Ratings

🗓️ 3 September 2013

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

When it comes to sharing the planet with other animals, you might think that we humans are just screwing it all up. Ruining everything. Hogging all the resources. But what if it's a little more complicated than that? What do the stories we tell ourselves about wild animals actually mean? Jon Mooallem's new book Wild Ones attempts to explain. Then later, revisit Jesse's conversation with the late master of American pulp ficton: Elmore Leonard. They'll talk about his distinctive prose and the many film adaptations of his work. Plus comedy from Kurt Braunohler, a couple of new DVD recommendations from film website The Dissolve, and Jesse explains the virtues of watching drunk people explain important historical events.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Evan from Silver Spring, Maryland.

0:02.4

I'm Nicole from Toronto.

0:03.9

I'm Jake from Chattanooga.

0:05.8

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0:10.8

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0:13.0

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0:13.8

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0:16.8

I'm Jesse Thorn.

0:18.2

What is it to be American?

0:19.7

Is it all steam engines in progress?

0:22.2

Or is it partly about a relationship with the wide open spaces?

0:27.4

And the animals that live there?

0:29.8

Even the ones that are kind of scary.

0:31.8

You know, it's why we still have a buffalo on our coin and why you're down the highway and you see RVs with wolves, airbrushed on them or whatever.

0:40.8

These animals are symbols of a kind of a real America.

0:44.8

It's Bullseye.

0:52.8

John Williams' new book Wild Ones is about the relationship between Americans and wild animals.

0:58.8

How we think about them, how we try to protect them, how we sometimes try and get rid of them.

1:04.8

Basically, when it comes to Americans and wild animals, it's complicated.

1:09.8

Just this idea that human influence can only do bad, really backs you into a corner.

1:15.8

And the writer Elmore Leonard passed away just a couple weeks ago.

1:19.8

He was one of the great masters of American pulp fiction.

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