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The Book Case

Jon Meacham Rewrites Abraham Lincoln's Story

The Book Case

ABC News

Fiction, Arts, Books, Society & Culture

4.1766 Ratings

🗓️ 27 October 2022

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

A quick Google search will tell you there are over 15,000 books about Abraham Lincoln. Do we need another? Well yes, considering that none of them so far has been written by Jon Meacham who is one of America’s best biographers. “And There Was Light” has just been released. It is a most readable 420 page biography of our 16th President and it is timely. America is probably more divided now that at any time since Lincoln’s. Jon writes, “A President who led a divided country in which an implacable minority gave no quarter…has much to teach us in a twenty-first century moment of polarization.” Jon is a great conversationalist. At one point he says, "Some think I’m the love child of Mr. Rogers and Doris Kearns Goodwin.” How is that for a tease? Books mentioned in this podcast: And There was Light by Jon Meacham The Soul of America by Jon Meacham American Lion by Jon Meacham Thomas Jefferson: The Art of Power by Jon Meacham Franklin and Winston by Jon Meacham His Truth is Marching On by Jon Meacham American Gospel by Jon Meacham The Hope of Glory by Jon Meacham Destiny and Power by Jon Meacham All the King's Men by Robert Penn Warren The Wise Men by Walter Isaacson and Evan Thomas Barchester Towers by Anthony Trollope The Prime Minister by Anthony Trollope The Warden by Anthony Trollope Emma by Jane Austen The Chain by Adrian McKintey Catch-22 by Joseph Heller The Man in the High Castle by Philip K. Dick The Prince by Niccolò Machiavelli Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the bouquets, or I should say bienvino.

0:10.3

At least we keep looking for different ways to introduce this thing.

0:14.8

Anyway, I'm Charlie Gibson.

0:16.5

I'm Kate Gibson, and to Spanish speakers everywhere out there, I'm sorry.

0:24.2

Yeah, I apologize. I apologize. Both my daughters and my wife have much better facility with the Spanish language than do I. We bring you

0:29.3

today, John Meacham, a well-known writer who has written a new biography just out of Abraham Lincoln.

0:40.4

And There Was Light is the name of the book.

0:44.2

You know, I've read four biographies of Lincoln in the past 10 years,

0:46.3

and John must have had to hunt for a title.

0:48.2

I mean, there are thousands of books about Lincoln.

0:53.1

I read the white biography A. Lincoln, the Reynolds book, Abe,

0:56.0

David Herbert Donald's classic bio,

1:01.9

Lincoln. Eric Foner's great book on Lincoln, the fiery trial. So I guess John was left with,

1:06.4

and there is light. Well, it was either that or Abby Lincoln, you know, what they called him Abby. I don't know. I don't know. I don't have another title. He also has written some, I mean, he is an American treasure. He's written some of the greatest historical biographies. And he wrote, my personal favorite, John Meacham, is the Soul of America, which is largely about how America has come together in Times of Great Trial, and There Was Light is a terrific book in the

1:29.5

tradition of John Meacham's writing. Lincoln was a fascinating character, and although this is

1:35.0

probably the 950,000th biography on Lincoln, I found it both entertaining and I learned a heck of a lot.

1:43.0

Well, John writes so well, and he has given us a very

1:46.1

readable one-volume look at the complexities of Abraham Lincoln. He did it in just 420 pages. Can a

1:51.5

biography be called a page Turner? Not often, but I think this one can. I thought it was an excellent,

1:57.8

excellent book. And as John writes, we study Lincoln and study him and study him and

2:02.5

study him because of all the biographies that are up. But we study him because he was, not because he

2:07.1

was perfect, John Rice, but because he was a man whose inconsistencies resonate even now. The world,

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