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🗓️ 16 October 2025
⏱️ 102 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | My guest today is a guy that I fell in love with. I believe it was 2011. Yeah. It was pretty romantic. It was a |
| 0:06.5 | rooftop bar, Washington, D.C., MSNBC party. Rachel Maddow, I remember, was a bartending. It was |
| 0:15.5 | like, it's like a time capsule. Yeah, it's from another era. From another era. This, my guest was a writer for |
| 0:23.1 | Barack Obama, who was a black president. And by getting elected black president, it was somehow |
| 0:29.1 | a betrayal of his wife from what I understand and all the press she does. Again, these are not my |
| 0:35.0 | words. I'm just literally reading things she says. And I'm like, why she's so mad that her husband was president. |
| 0:39.3 | Anyhow, he's hard, try not to laugh about it because he's going to get in trouble. |
| 0:43.3 | He wrote for Hillary, then he wrote for Obama, then he started Pots of America and Lovett or Leave It and the Pod Save Network. |
| 0:50.3 | And his name is John Lovett. |
| 0:52.3 | And he's a good boy. And we're going to get to the bottom |
| 0:56.5 | of it today. And thanks for coming. Thanks for having me, Neil. You've been on my list for a long time. |
| 1:02.4 | I'm glad I'm here. I didn't know that. Yeah. Well, I think I did I text him? Whatever. Let's not get |
| 1:07.7 | let's not get into it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Hey, I'm sorry. |
| 1:11.1 | Thank you. |
| 1:11.6 | If I, if I didn't respond to an invitation, I deep, you're not a great texter. I'm not a great texter. It's actually on my list of blocks. It's on my list of fucking blocks. Including, you didn't even send me your blocks. Well, that did say optional. It said optional to send the blocks. |
| 1:24.9 | It said optional to send the blocks. |
| 1:26.0 | It says optional to send the blocks. |
| 1:28.5 | It's black tie optional. |
| 1:30.1 | You wear a black tie. |
| 1:31.4 | Okay. It said optional to send the blocks. It said optional to send the blocks. It says optional to send the blocks. |
| 1:28.4 | It's black tie optional. |
| 1:30.0 | You wear a black tie. |
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