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This is the political scene, a weekly conversation with New Yorker writers and editors

about politics. It's Thursday, March 7th. I'm Amelia Luster managing editor of the New Yorker

in this week for Dorothy Wickenden.

At the 4.25 of the afternoon, today 5th of March, has fallen to the commandant president, Hugo Chavez-Frio.

Tuesday evening, Venezuela's vice president

Nicholas Maduro announced the death of

President Hugo Chavez.

To talk about Chavez, his legacy,

and the leftward drift of South American politics,

I'm joined by John Lee Anderson and John Cassidy. John Lee, Chavez, his legacy and the leftward drift of South American politics. I'm joined by John Lee Anderson and John Cassidy. John Lee, Chavez came to power in 1999 and began to implement what he

eventually called 21st century socialism. So in a nutshell, what did Chavez hope to achieve and what did he

actually get done? He didn't announce 21st century socialism when he first came in.

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