Hey friend, welcome to the Meer Christians podcast. I'm Jordan Rayner. How does the gospel

influence the work of mere Christians?

Those of us who aren't pastors or religious professionals,

but who work as data analysts, tile centers,

and fundraisers? That's the question we explore every week and today I'm

posing it to my friend John Houghton. He's the CEO of Holy Post Media, a friend who has thought deeply about how the unabridged gospel

should shape the work that you and I do today. John and I recently sat down to

discuss how caring about all that God cares about will change what we do at work.

We talked about how to think about evangelism and social action as two elements of an interconnected flywheel.

Alert Jim Collins fans. You're going to love this section of the episode.

And we also talked about why we Christians should never

outsource our discernment about how the gospel shapes our work not even to me and

why it's so important that we do that work of discernment on our own with the Lord.

I think you guys are going to love this episode with my buddy,

Jock Hoi. John Houghton.

Houghton, finally, welcome in the Mir Christians podcast buddy. Man, it's good to be here.

First-time caller, but longtime listener.

I know man, long-time caller but long time listen I know man long-time listener and

John Houghton is responsible for one of my most memorable evenings of 2023 are you going to tell the

seabass story we can do the seab story. I don't remember exactly. All I remember is we were at dinner with

friends and it was like a great opportunity. It was like, guys you're connected to and we found out we had mutual

friends. We're in a nice restaurant totally out of my

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