Shall on, pray, on working ground.

Glory, Halleluia.

The dead's alive and the lost is found.

Glory, Hallelujah. lost is found. G matters. We are part of the Fight Laugh Feast network and I am your host for today,

Jacob Tanner and we are excited to have returning to the show John Harris part of

conversations that matter.

John has recently released a great new documentary that we're going to be discussing today.

Virginia First, the 1607 project and so guys we're going to be getting a little historical today.

We're going to be getting a little political today.

And of course as you're going to find out

eschatology truly does matter in a multitude of different ways but John

thank you for coming back on the show today I appreciate it Jacob it's always good to be

invited back somewhere.

Yeah, yeah, and this documentary, I don't want to give everything away because obviously we want people to watch what you've created with this,

but even the title itself was interesting to me when I first saw because

Virginia first the 1607 project immediately made me think of the 1619 project from a few years back and I think people are still trying to push that so

was this kind of a a direct front to that was this kind of a combat against that? Yeah it was an idea

that I had back in 2020 I think is when I first thought about it and it might not

have been until 2021 I actually sent an email out I don't remember but the idea

was that the 1619 project was and still is highly influential was being picked up by all kinds of educators and high profile figures and at the same time you had at the end of the Trump presidency a 1776 commission and their job was to answer

the 1619 project essentially and that narrative and so they created a short document You can go look it up online. I mean, it's a dead document at this point because the Biden administration obviously didn't honor it, but it frames American history differently, at least they think it's differently, and it's more of a right-wing take.

And so you had these competing narratives. And I looked at both of them, I just said neither of these is correct and actually they're more similar to each other than I think either would probably want to admit because they both buy into this

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