Hello and welcome to the Bullard podcast I'm your host Tim Miller I'm pumped to be here today with Barack Obama's former head speech writer, co-author of the book Democracy

or Else How to Save America in Ten Easy Steps, and the host of a niche political podcast you may have heard of,

Pod damn America, excuse me pod save America John Favreau what's happening my man

Hey man. Thanks for having me on big fan long time listen. Yeah, we understand you're especially a fan of Mondays with Bill Crystal,

and that you're just like waiting for the Bill Crystal apps to drop.

That's what I've heard.

I do all the Bullwork Podcasts. I'm a subscriber. I listen to you every day. I listen to next level.

This is getting too much. This is getting too much. The Bill Crystal compliments were good enough. I'm getting uncomfortable now. We have something else in common, I think at least.

And I'm going to borrow a few words from both Barack Obama, your former Boston last night's

speech, and the Colonel in Boogie Knights. I don't know if he was intentionally making a reference to the kernel in boogie nights

when he said this, but you know, I'm a man that likes simple pleasures.

I like butter in my ass and lollie pumps in my mouth and a card game with friends and convention speeches that deliver a

fucking message that helps the nominee win. That's all I'm looking for. A simple

pleasure and it seems like we got that. We did get that.

We did get that.

That's nice.

I feel like that shouldn't be hard.

Me too.

For some reason, it is hard for people.

I don't understand.

It's like there's, you've got to go into these things with

the goal in mind. What is your goal? Right? Like who's the audience and what's the

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