Hello, I'm currently out of office.

An article I read recently said we're more relaxed and more productive after a good break.

So, I've gone to Barbados for a month for science. Yours, Toby.

Take your holiday as seriously as British Airways holidays take your holiday. Atul protected.

This is a global original podcast.

Hello and welcome to full disclosure, a podcast project designed chiefly to let me spend more

time available on the radio with someone that I've always wanted to meet.

And this week's guest, Jolly and Maugh, the founder of the Good Law Project, founder and

director, very much slots into that category.

We've never met before.

And yet, as with quite a few full disclosure to guess, but by no means all of them, I kind of feel I know you already. Well, the funny thing about social media, which is where we've met most often,

is that it allows you to present a picture of yourself to the world, one that cannot be interrogated

by your Twitter followers in my case. And you get very carefully to curate that picture.

And so real life has a habit of sometimes exploding your sort of magnificent act of self-curation.

We'll find out.

We shall.

You do care about the picture presented to the world because you don't like misrepresentation, but we'll get on to that.

It occurred to me that you're, often this is a life and times conversation in your case it's

particularly difficult to separate the two because an awful lot of what you do now is built

upon where you come from and and and and who you are so so we'll begin at the beginning your

your parents weren't married.

Yeah. So in Memories of the Ford administration, John Updike's novel, he talks about the 70s as being a time when any man and woman who found themselves in a room with a door with a lock felt duty bound to fuck.

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