Hey listeners, Chelsea here.

I'm a producer on this show and I'm in your ears today to share some exciting changes coming to the feed.

Rest assured, you're still going to hear the most interesting true crime stories from all around the world,

backed by the research you've come to expect.

But very soon, we'll be introducing a new host to all of you. It's someone who

shares our obsession with true crime in the criminal mind, a dynamic storyteller with a perspective

we think you're really going to love. And before we launch into this next evolution, we wanted

to take a beat and revisit some of your favorite stories from the past eight years. Episodes that reflect the journey this show has taken while we get ready for something new.

Today's episode takes us back to January 2018, one of the earliest chapters of the show.

It's a glimpse into how serial killers first began to take shape.

Enjoy.

Due to the graphic nature of this killer's crimes,

listener discretion is advised. This episode includes dramatizations and discussions of murder that some people may find offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under 13.

What motivates you?

Every morning when you wake up, what prompts you to get out of bed?

Are you driven by ambition?

A need to go out and do great things?

Or is it simply a matter of getting through the day?

Perhaps there's a cause you care about. Maybe a certain

someone. Is love what motivates you? Or lust? Or is it a need to control? To kill?

For many psychiatrists and criminologists, these are the questions they asked when trying to

understand one of America's most prolific female serial killers, Jane Toppin, aka Jolly Jane.

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