On this episode of Skeptico, a show about considering all your options.

The president, I would not rule out the chance to preserve a nucleus of human specimens.

A radioactivity would never penetrate to mine some thousands of feet deep.

How long would you have to stay down there?

Bill, let's see now.

1,100 years.

And a show about when crazy doesn't sound crazy.

This crazy mutual destruction kind of thing.

The way you lay it out, it actually kind of makes sense.

They were starting off to seminar, but they were also concentrating on the nuclear arms race.

So they were both really scared.

In 1957, when nuclear war and foreign policy got

released from the CFR working group that Henry Kissinger released it and it kind of said,

okay, what would be better than all-out nuclear war is that we have this slow perpetual

warfare. That first clip was from Dr. Strange Love which, if you've never watched it or if you

haven't watched it recently, is a must, an absolute must.

And the second is from today's excellent, excellent guest, Johnny Vedmore of Unlimited

Hangout, who has some just extraordinary articles that

were not even going to be able to scratch the surface on, but I hope you will check out

after listening to this interview.

Welcome to Skeptico where we explore controversial science, spirituality, and other big picture stuff like we'll hear about today with leading researchers, thinkers, and their critics.

And boy, oh boy, do we have a good one today.

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