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Hello and welcome to full disclosure.

A podcast project conceived chiefly to allow me to spend more time with people I find interesting than is ordinarily available on the radio.

Although this week's guest doesn't necessarily fit into that category because we work in

the same building and therefore are quite free to spend quite a lot of time together

whenever we may please.

Which leads me to my first instruction, which is that I'm going to be very strict with you.

Because out of all the people I've ever met, I think the one who would be most likely to start answering my first question and then not stop talking until we get to the end of the interview is probably you.

What I'm looking forward to is if we have that coincidence, not stop talking until we get to the end of the interview is probably you.

What I'm looking forward to is the, if we have that coincidence, where I do go off on one and weirdly come back to where I started, and it looks like I intended that.

And there's a sort of this weird illusion.

A symmetry.

The circle is complete.

Yeah, some cyclical, yeah, whatever.

Well, what I'm also looking forward to is finding out more about you, Johnny,

because...

Same.

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