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Hey everyone, it's Jake here from High Performance. We're about to talk about how you can turn

negative emotions into a powerful

force. So if you're the kind of person is actually walking around and you're filled with regret

and you're thinking so much about the past, how can you make sure that those things actually inform your

future in a positive way? As always, you can't do this alone. And my co-host on High Performance,

Damien Hughes is with me and and Damien, you wanted,

and actually you've been keen for us to speak to someone for a long time. You've had a conversation

with this person and I think that not living with regret is probably a theme that came through

in the chat you've just had. Absolutely, Jake. I was lucky enough to sit down with Johnny

Sexton, one of the most iconic rugby players of the last generation,

Islands No. 10. And sat down with him about talking about how do you turn something that can be

quite painful into something really productive? And he's written a book where he's gone through

these reflections himself. And I spoke to him about some of the lessons and what

we can learn. So let's listen to the interview and then maybe we'll dissect it afterwards.

Well, hi Johnny and welcome to high performance. We're a year on now from your retirement, Johnny,

and I'm interested in how you've learned to process and almost reflect on such an incredible career.

And more personally, is there a particular moment

where you felt you learned the most about yourself?

I learned so much about myself, I think,

probably towards the middle bit of my career,

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