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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Johnny Depp/Amber Heard Trial Goes to Jury

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

iHeartPodcasts and CrimeOnline

News, True Crime

4.28.1K Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2022

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Jury deliberations continued today in the defamation trial of Johnny Depp and Amber Heard. Jurors asked for clarification from the judge yesterday on a point of content, regarding the headline of Amber Heard's op-ed.

The jury wanted to know if they were considering just the headline or the entire op-ed.

The judge clarified the headline is what is to be considered. And then just 13 hours after deliberations began... a verdict. 

Joining Nancy Grace Today:

  • Darryl Cohen - Former Assistant District Attorney, Fulton County, Georgia, Defense Attorney, Cohen, Cooper, Estep, & Allen, LLC, CCEAlaw.com 
  • Dr. Charles Heller - Clinical and Forensic Psychologist Specializing in Domestic Violence, Chief Forensic Consultant: Rockland County (New York) Forensic Mental Health Unit, Rutgers Biomedical, and Health Sciences
  • Joe Scott Morgan - Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author, "Blood Beneath My Feet", Host: "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan"
  • Charlie Lankston - FeMail Editor, DailyMail.com, Twitter/Instagram:@charlielanks 

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0:00.0

Cribe Stories with Nancy Grace

0:07.0

Well, it just won't go away. I'm talking about herd versus depth, depth versus herd. It's all happening right now in a Fairfax Virginia courtroom. The jury is going into our 10 of deliberations.

0:29.0

Did Aquaman star Amber herd defame Pirates of the Caribbean, Captain Jack Sparrow, Johnny, Dep, and likewise, a lot's happening. There's never a dull moment in this trial.

0:43.0

I'm Nancy Grace. This is Cribe Stories. Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation and Series XM111. Well, apparently Johnny, Dep is not that worried. Take a listen to our 43 from the Today Show.

0:57.0

Johnny, Dep, exporting new blonde locks, headed overseas this weekend, the seemingly unfazed film star, seen performing several songs in England alongside legendary rock guitarist and friend Jeff Backlosing arguments in the trial were contentious.

1:12.0

And there is a victim of domestic abuse in this courtroom, but it does not miss herd.

1:16.0

Johnny, Dep's team, painting his ex-wife as an abusive manipulator who wanted to destroy their client's reputation.

1:23.0

She just hit me over and over and over again. Herds team presenting their evidence to support her allegations of abuse, including an array of photos of her face bruised and swollen after she says Depa Tactor, texts they say document the incidents and witnesses who testified they saw Dep become violent, as well as her injuries in the aftermath.

1:43.0

If Amber was abused by Mr. Dep even one time, then she wins. Dep brought the $50 million defamation suitings heard after she wrote a 2018 Washington Post op-ed where she described herself as a public figure representing domestic abuse.

1:59.0

Not so fast. Under the black and white letter of the law, yes, if Dep ever hit herd, she wins, but they forgot this part. The jury has to be convinced.

2:13.0

Sometimes one party can turn out to be so distasteful, so dislikable, the credibility is shot.

2:21.0

Let me go at the trolleylinks and joining me from dillymail.com. She is the editor of Female.

2:29.0

Trolley, I actually had someone approach me and asked me, I the blue, this was at Target.

2:37.0

Do you think Amber heard faked her bruises? That's not a good omen.

2:43.0

You know, I have investigated and prosecuted hundreds, literally hundreds of domestic violence, domestic sex assault, domestic homicide.

2:51.0

Cases I've never had anyone ask me, did she paint on or fake her bruises? That's not good for her.

2:59.0

It's really not good for her. And I think first and foremost, you know, in the court of public opinion, I don't want to say that they're the winner because I think that this whole trial has been such an insane search.

3:12.0

No one really wins. But I think that in the court of public opinion, Johnny is certainly ahead of Amber.

3:19.0

And I think that he has come across in some strange way as being much more likable.

3:25.0

And I don't know how the jury could not feel the same way. In some small way.

3:32.0

Amber really just has not come across as a likable human being.

3:36.0

And when you're dealing with a court case that has had so many insane claims, so many horrific allegations of different kinds of abuse, I don't know how that doesn't play at least a small part in their deliberation.

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