Ladies and gentlemen, are you ready to listen to a man of grace, sophistication, integrity, and whimsy.

Well, so are we.

But until such a man shows up, please welcome Eric Matt, Texas.

Hey, the folks, welcome to the program.

I don't know what day it is, but who cares?

Some of you don't either.

But here's the important thing.

I have a wonderful guest on right now. This is, this is

pretty cool. His name is Johnny Burka. He's written a book, Gateway to Statesmanship,

from Xenophon to Churchill. Ladies and gentlemen, if you put Xenophon in your title, I'm hooked.

Johnny, welcome to the program. Thanks for having me, Eric. And you do go by Johnny. I'm not,

I'm not being importunate. I do go by Johnny. That's right. I figure that John is a little bit more

forgettable. So, you know, I'm bound about a lot on behalf of lives. Yes. Well, my brother's name John, and I more forgettable, so, you know, about about a lot.

Yes. Well, my brother's name John, and I call him Johnny. But you give us, first of all,

how do you pronounce your last name? That's much more important.

Bertka. Okay. I got that right, too. Bertka. You got it right. You nailed it.

Okay, you give us your background.

Before we get into why you wrote a book about statesmanship, Xenophant, to Churchill, what led you

into this?

Yeah, absolutely.

So I was a son of the Midwest grew up in Michigan.

Dad worked in the auto industry.

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