Welcome to the Eric Mettaxas show with your host, Eric Mettaxas.

Folks, welcome to hour two.

We like to call it hour two because it follows hour one. We're quirky that way.

My guest, as I think you know, is John Smirak. John Smirak, welcome. Hey, Eric, great to talk to you.

How are you doing? I'm in Billings, Montana. I don't know how I got here. I don't know what's

going on. Billings. I've never been to Montana before. And I have to say,

I've always wanted to go to Montana, but I expected to see bison roaming the plains and things. And I'm,

I'm in the downtown of Billings. But there's snow everywhere. When we landed yesterday, I had come from

San Diego by way of Phoenix. So I had forgotten that it was winter. And when we landed yesterday, I had come from San Diego by way of Phoenix.

So I had forgotten that it was winter.

And when we landed, there was snow everywhere.

It was very traumatic.

I still don't know what I'm going to do about it.

I've never seen. This is what happens when you just take a bottle of Johnny Walker and get on a random grayon bus.

That's kind of what it feels like.

I don't know who i

am um you and i have a lot to talk about uh before i forget because i did forget to say it earlier

when i landed here in billings montana i got to my hotel room and i'm doing an event tonight

and i have to sign some copies of my new book

is Atheism Dead, which you've been very kind in talking about. But I noticed something. Nobody warned

me. The cover of the book is glossy. They must have done like this is the second printing or something, but it is so

beautiful. I just thought, I can't even believe this, I have to mention this. You order the book

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