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Do you like your gravy sick and rich and loaded with creamy mushrooms?

If no one was looking, would you chug the whole gravy boat?

Chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug.

Stay tuned.

Here comes Mr. Chugg-a-lug-a-lug himself, Eric Ma, Texas.

Hey there, folks.

Welcome to the program.

In your world, it's Wednesday, October 2nd, I think.

But in my world, it's Tuesday, October 1st.

Because on Wednesday, October 2nd, I will not be able to do the show the way I normally do it.

We're doing a special Bonhofer tour retreat here in New York City. And so I'm not going to be

able to comment, for example, on the debate, which you theoretically watched last night,

but in my world, which is going to be on tonight. I'm not going to be able to see it tonight because there's a sneak peek of the Bonhoeffer film right here in New York. We're going to be going to the sneak peak of the Bonhofer film tonight while the debate is going on. And then tomorrow, I won't be able to comment on the debate. So today, the day after you've seen the debate,

I can't comment on it. John Smirak is my guest. John Smirak, you're also trapped in the world of

October 1st, Tuesday, the night before the debate or the day before the debate. But maybe you can

talk about Tim Walts a little bit and J.D. Vance, since people are going to want to, you know,

talk about that. Well, Eric, I'm just going to pretend that I've watched the debate.

Yeah, pretend. Go ahead.

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