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John! With Hugo Méndez

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Society & Culture, History

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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This week it's a johannine deep dive, and we brought in the big guns! Our guest is Hugo Méndez, Associate Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and all-around nice guy. Hugo's book, The Gospel of John, a New History, is making waves in the world of Bible scholarship, and we're here for it. Grab a board, and let's surf those waves together! Get the book here: https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-gospel-of-john-9780197686126?cc=us⟨=en& ---- For early access to an ad-free version of every episode of Data Over Dogma, exclusive content, and the opportunity to support our work, please consider becoming a monthly patron at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/DataOverDogma⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠      Follow us on the various social media places: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/DataOverDogmaPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.twitter.com/data_over_dogma⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Have you ordered Dan McClellan's New York Times bestselling book ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Bible Says So⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ yet??? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, this is Matt from the Explorers podcast. I want to invite you to join me on the voyages and journeys of the most famous explorers in the history of the world. These are the thrilling and captivating stories of Vigelin, Shackleton, Lewis, and Clark, and so many other famous and not so famous adventures from throughout history.

0:22.8

Go to Explorespodcast.com or just look us up on your podcast app.

0:27.0

That's the Explorers Podcast.

0:30.9

One thing I set out to do in this book was to really press the question, if John knows the synoptics,

0:40.2

which I argue he did, then why does he want to change them in the way that he does? What does he add to them that's different? Something

0:44.6

new that I do is I put together a very different theological vision of the gospel of John

0:51.4

than I think has really existed in any other book that's out there

0:56.0

right now on the market.

1:01.2

Hey, everybody, I'm Dan McClellan.

1:03.3

And I'm Dan Beecher.

1:04.5

And you're listening to the Data Over Dogma podcast where we increase public access to the

1:10.0

academic study of the Bible and religion,

1:12.0

and we combat the spread of misinformation about the same. Again, in those pleasing

1:18.2

baritone voices, mine a little more so than usual. Your voice is a little, a little nasally

1:24.6

baritone today because you're, uh, it's pleasant. Alas, you're sick.

1:28.5

Yes. I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm sympathizing with you. I brought home, uh, from Dragon Con in Atlanta.

1:33.9

Uh, I brought home a number of comic books, a number of T-shirts and a head cold.

1:39.2

Yeah. Which I'm not happy about, but apparently you're allergic to dragons.

1:44.5

Anyway, uh, we should introduce our guest.

1:46.6

We have a guest this week on the show.

1:49.0

Please say hello, everybody, to Hugo Mendez,

1:52.1

who is Associate Professor of Religious Studies

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