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Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

John Swinney’s goals for Scotland

Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Institute for Government

News, Politics, Government

4.6252 Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

The First Minister for Scotland joined the Inside Briefing team to discuss football, the political context in Scotland ahead of the UK budget, and the SNP’s vision for Scotland’s future. Meanwhile, the Home Secretary announced significant reforms to the UK’s asylum and migration system. We discussed how the plans landed, what might happen next and what challenges lie ahead. And this week saw the final instalment of the IFG’s public services Performance Tracker. We talked to the team about the government’s record on public services since the election, where the greatest risks lie and what the Prime Minister needs to do to turn things around before the end of this Parliament. Presented by Catherine Haddon. With Nick Davies, Cassia Rowland, and Jill Rutter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The most significant reform to our migration system in modern times.

0:12.0

That was the Home Secretary's own assessment of her changes to asylum and immigration policy announced this week.

0:19.0

On Monday, Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood revealed her plans to massively

0:22.6

alter existing rules on immigration and asylum seekers. It included making refugee status temporary,

0:29.0

reducing opportunities for appeal and reducing support. The plans were welcomed by both the

0:34.6

Conservatives and Reform, or rather critiqued, for not going far enough,

0:38.5

and lambasted by some members of her own party. So, how have these plans landed, what might

0:44.7

happen next and what challenges lie ahead? Meanwhile, our final instalment of our Public Services

0:50.8

Performance Tracker says that the Prime Minister must urgently get a grip if he

0:54.8

wants to see tangible improvements to these services before the next election. We will discuss what

1:00.3

the government needs to do if it wants to get public sector performance back on track. And we will

1:05.4

also be speaking to Scottish First Minister John Sweeney, who stopped by the IFG to discuss last night's football

1:11.7

triumph. We're recording on Wednesday. The political context in Scotland, ahead of the crucial UK budget

1:17.6

and the SMP's vision for Scotland's future. All that to come. I'm Catherine Haddon, and this is

1:23.3

Inside Briefing the podcast from the Institute for Government. After the NHS last week, we have more

1:29.1

of the IFG's public services team here with us today, program director Nick Davies and senior

1:34.1

researcher Cassia Rowland. Hi, both. Are you glad to be through the performance tracker marathon?

1:38.9

I think we're already looking forward to next year. Okay, well, let's start with the announcement

1:43.7

from the Home Secretary

1:44.7

on Monday. After several days of briefing, we had a House of Commons announcement and a policy

1:49.9

statement published by the government. Nick, I'll start with you. Is it unusual for a Home Secretary

1:54.6

so new in the job to make such a dramatic new policy? So I think there are definitely past

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