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Origin Story

John Stuart Mill & Harriet Taylor Mill – Part Two – Love, bravery and feminism

Origin Story

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Society & Culture, News, News Commentary, History

4.8655 Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2024

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Back for season five, Origin Story continues to explore the misunderstood ideas and people that shape our politics today. With Ian Dunt and Dorian Lynskey. In this two-parter Ian gets seriously into the research by mining his own book for episode ideas and comes up smiling with this tale of love, bravery and feminism. John Stuart Mill and Harriet Taylor are the mother and father of liberalism, a joint writing team who produced the most seminal books about freedom in the modern era. But while he was worshipped by those who came afterwards, she was mocked, lambasted and then erased from history. In part two, Ian and Dorian talk about the single most important liberal book ever written, track the ups and downs of the couple's tumultuous affair, and show how Mill became a woke warrior in his old age, fighting against racism and sexism and destroying his carefully-built Victorian reputation in the process. • See Origin Story live at the King’s Head Theatre, London on Mon 15 July. Tickets here. • Pre-order the forthcoming Origin Stories books on Centrism, Fascism and Conspiracy Theory and get 20% off using the special discount code revealed in the podcast.  • Buy The Ministry of Truth through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund Origin Story by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. • Support Origin Story on Patreon Reading list Ian Dunt – How to be a Liberal (2020) (Has anyone heard of this book? Is it any good?) Jo Ellen Jacobs (ed) – The Complete Works of Harriet taylor Mill (1998) John Stuart Mill (and Harriet Taylor Mill) – On Liberty (1859) John Stuart Mill (and Harriet Taylor Mill) – The Subjection of Women (1869) John Stuart Mill and Jeremy Bentham – Utilitarianism and Other Essays (1987) Richard Reeves – John Stuart Mill: Victorian Firebrand (2007) Written and presented by Ian Dunt and Dorian Lynskey. Music by Jade Bailey. Art by Jim Parrett. Logo by Mischa Welsh. Audio production by Simon Williams. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Origin Story is a Podmasters production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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In each episode, we take a word, idea, or figure from history, explain its origins and

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talk about how it influences political discourse today.

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I'm Dori Anlinski, author of the Ministry of Truth and everything must go.

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Oh yeah, no, and I'm here too. And my name is Ian Dunst, and I am the author of How Westminster

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Works and Why It Doesn't, and I'm a columnist with the Iron newspaper. Hopefully, you will have

1:18.1

listened to Part 1 of John Stuart Mill and Harriet Taylor. Otherwise, go back and listen to that now.

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Now we're going to do part two. Ian, I did some reading around this. And what I found

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really interesting and a little bit puzzling is that I suppose like the dummies version of John

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Stuart Mill, which was previously and perhaps still my version, is his contribution to liberalism. And these days,

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you know, there is no big insults, well, apart from centrist, among socialists than liberal.

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