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I continue my conversation with John Strand.

You can find him at John Strand.

dot com. So John, so you're sentenced to 32 months. It was very

upsetting for me because I know you we were hanging out I year and a half ago whatever was here in New York City

and you get sentenced you go in I had the privilege in Colorado of meeting your mom and your sisters and hearing about how you're doing.

What happened I want to hear the story of what happened when you went in.

In other words, what was it like for you?

A decent, wonderful young man who believes in what is right and good and true,

being processed, being incarcerated.

What was that like for you?

It's a great question, thank you for asking it. The answer is it was terrible and I really truly mean that. It was absolutely terrible from start to finish in a multitude of ways of which of course I describe at length in the book

Patriot plea which I hope everyone will really share but the basic answer to why it was terrible is as you mentioned I'm a law-abiding citizen

and I'm deeply connected to the Bible which I firmly believe is the source of absolute truth and I the

source of absolute truth and I am deeply connected to those foundations of virtue, of

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