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The Rich Roll Podcast

John Salley: The NBA Champion On Going Vegan For Athletic Performance, Longevity & The Environment (Plus: Why So Many Pro Athletes Die Young)

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Education, Society & Culture, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness

4.7 • 13.3K Ratings

🗓️ 28 September 2015

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

It’s one thing when a skinny runner dude starts talking about the benefits of a plant-based diet. It's another thing altogether when a 6′ 11″ 4-time NBA Champion tells you it's a good idea. Enter John Salley. Husband, father, athlete, actor, entrepreneur, talk show host, philanthropist, wellness advocate, NBA champion… and vegan. John was the first basketball player in NBA history to win four championships with three different teams in three different decades — two with the Detroit Pistons ('89 & '90), one with the Chicago Bulls ('96) & one more with the Los Angeles Lakers ('00). After eleven seasons he retired as a Laker on the 2000 NBA Lakers Championship team. Since his retirement from the NBA, John has worked consistently in television, film, radio, print and new media. For seven years he co-hosted the Emmy-nominated series The Best Damn Sports Show Period (FOX). He then hosted BET's sports talk show Baller before creating his own show Game On for REELZ. In addition, John is an avid entrepreneur, channeling his enthusiasm for clean eating & advocacy for the vegan lifestyle into an array of ventures, including The Vegan Vine, his California wine brand (who knew some wine wasn't vegan?), and his Betta Life 21-Day Challenge. John's mission is simple: to educate as many people as possible on the health and environmental benefits of a plant-based lifestyle. This is a fairly free range conversation that takes us inside John's NBA career; what it was like to play ball at the highest level with guys like Michael Jordan, Isaiah Thomas and Shaq; and how being coached by Phil Jackson, perhaps the greatest coach in basketball history, helped forge his character and inform his post-NBA career success. We get into the hows and whys of John's decision to go vegan; his opinion on how most professional athletes eat; why so many professional athletes die young; how he works with both athletes and average folks to change misplaced, normative ideas about the plant-based lifestyle; the importance of yoga and meditation in his routine; and what drives his mission to change the face of global health. A few more topics covered include: * forging normative change by example * the link between cancer & diet * plant-based nutrition for athletes * the importance of stepping stone goals * warning the NBA about the nutrition risks * millennial adaptation to technology * making money while you sleep * the benefits of meditation * John’s stellar NBA career * Coach Phil Jackson & team dynamics * fragility of reputation & Big Brother John is an easy guy to love. He is engaging, incredibly charismatic and always entertaining. But behind the playful attitude is a serious message worth heeding. I sincerely hope you enjoy the exchange. Peace + Plants, Rich

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People don't make your future, your habits make your future.

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So I make sure that my habits are beneficial for my future.

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So what I plan today, what I do today will benefit me tomorrow.

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I'm not sad that I work that hard today so I can have the benefit tomorrow.

0:21.0

That is the Great John Sally and this is the Retro podcast.

0:30.0

The Rich Roll Podcast.

0:39.0

Hey everybody, what's happening? How are you?

0:41.0

Thanks for tuning in. My name is Rich Roll and this is the podcast that bears my name.

0:46.0

It's the podcast where I sit down with the outliers, the big forward thinkers across all categories of positive, paradigm, breaking, culture, change.

0:55.0

And the aim is simple. The aim is to help all of us unlock and unleash our best most authentic selves.

1:01.0

Basically it's about, I think these conversations and the guests that I host are really about kind of elucidating a greater sense of one's personal truth.

1:12.0

So I have guests come on, they tell their stories. These are conversations that my hope is you can emotionally connect with.

1:19.0

Like you can connect with their emotional truth. And my aspiration for you is that that will sort of elucidate some kind of universal truth applicable to your own path, your own journey.

1:31.0

At least that's my big idea. And I've got a great guest on the show today to do just that John Sally. He's an amazing guy.

1:39.0

And I think that he's a guy who ain't afraid to speak his own truth. He's a proud and loud advocate of a healthy plant-based lifestyle, which is really powerful coming from an athlete of his pedigree in caliber.

1:54.0

He's a four-time NBA champion for those of you who don't know who he is. But he's very entertaining.

2:00.0

He's been somebody that has been an influence on me, I've known him for a number of years. And a huge influence on so many young and older pro athletes out there.

2:12.0

So I'm looking forward to talking with him and sharing that conversation with you guys here today. But in the meantime, I just want to share a little appreciation to you guys for tuning in today for subscribing to the show on iTunes for checking out my weekly newsletter.

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Please give us a review on iTunes if you got a moment that really helps us out. And thank you so much for using the Amazon banner ad at Richroll.com for all your Amazon purchases.

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I got a few more things I want to say about John before we get into the interview. But first...

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