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Case in Point: The Legal Show on the Hottest Legal Cases in Politics and Culture

John Roberts v. Chuck Schumer

Case in Point: The Legal Show on the Hottest Legal Cases in Politics and Culture

The Heritage Foundation

Government

4.5527 Ratings

🗓️ 6 March 2020

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Mark Walsh joins Elizabeth Slattery this week to break down what the oral arguments in an important separation-of-powers case and the Louisiana abortion case. They discuss the recent dust up between John Roberts and Chuck Schumer and the news that the Court will hear a sixth case involving Obamacare. Elizabeth also chats with Louisiana Solicitor General Elizabeth Murrill about her career. Stay tuned for Supreme Trivia - Before They Were Justices edition. Mark's in the hot seat!


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0:00.0

I'm Elizabeth Lattery and welcome to Scotus 101, where we break down what's happening at the Supreme Court, what the justices are up to, and other things related to our favorite branch of government.

0:13.7

This week, I'm joined by Mark Walsh, who writes for Scotus Blog, the ABA Journal, and Education Week.

0:19.4

It's been a while since your last appearance on the podcast, so Mark, welcome back.

0:23.0

Always happy to be here.

0:25.0

So it's been a busy week at the Supreme Court with the justices issuing one pretty big opinion, orders, hearing oral arguments, and then there's the dust up between the Chief Justice and Senator Chuck Schumer.

0:36.4

So first up, we'll hit the highlights of the court's opinion in Kansas v. Garcia.

0:41.2

It was a 5-4 ruling with the majority decision written by Justice Alito split along sort of traditional ideological lines.

0:49.7

The court held that federal immigration law does not preempt a state law criminalizing identity fraud

0:55.3

based on information provided on the I-9 employment verification forms. So here, three illegal aliens

1:01.6

were convicted of identity theft in Kansas for fraudulently using other people's social

1:06.1

security numbers on state and federal tax forms and on the I-9 forms. This went all the way to the Kansas Supreme Court,

1:12.4

which overturned their convictions on the ground that the Federal Immigration Reform and Control Act

1:18.2

expressly preempts state identity fraud laws. It held that a state could not use information contained

1:24.6

in the I-9 form as a basis for state law prosecution. So the state of

1:29.1

Kansas asked the U.S. Supreme Court to review that decision and the U.S. Supreme Court issued its

1:34.0

ruling this week. Reversing the state Supreme Court, the court said that the state court had read

1:38.9

the federal law way too broadly, said its reading is flatly contrary to standard English usage. The court explained

1:46.5

that although a tangible object can be contained in only one place at a time, an item of

1:52.4

information may be contained in many different places. So accordingly, the federal immigration law

1:57.6

did not expressly preempt state identity theft laws. The court also held that the federal law did not impliedly preempt state identity theft laws. The court also held that

2:02.4

the federal law did not impliedly preempt the state law because the state law did not conflict

2:08.3

with the federal law and the field covered by the federal law is unrelated to the submission of tax

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