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This idea that critiquing the judicial system or judicial opinions is itself corrosive of the rule of law is a kind of through the looking glass, kind of bizarre world conception of how lawyers are supposed to engage with the justice system.

Hi, and welcome back to amicus. This is Slate's podcast about the courts and the law and what used to be the law and also about how we weather, whatever is coming, and how we move through it together under the color of really understanding what law means. I'm Dahlia Lithwick from our family here at Slate,

to you and yours. We wish you a happy new year and we thank you for tuning in as we gingerly

step into this new year, this new administration, and the same old Supreme Court. The same old

Supreme Court is going to swing back into session next week with a huge TikTok case

that Mark and I previewed a few weeks back. And we're going to be combing through the arguments

in next week's show. But New Year's at amicus wouldn't be New Year's at amicus without my

dear friend, the National Treasure, our annual New Year's prophet and whisperer, Sherilyn Eiffel.

Sherilyn is the inaugural Vernon E. Jordan Jr. Esquire endowed chair in civil rights at Howard University. Prior to that, she served as the 7th President and Director-Council of the NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund. As the Vernon

Jordan Chair, Sherilyn has launched a multidisciplinary center focused on promoting the vision

and values articulated in the 14th Amendment of the Constitution as the central source of

America's post-Civil War identity. And I think it's become an amicus tradition to invite

Sherilyn onto this show in the new year as a kind of control alt-delete for the dispiriting,

moldering, sad face thinking about justice. Sherilyn is always able to somehow make her way through the dumpster

fire of recent years without giving up hope, without losing sight of what really matters. And by

reminding us how we're going to claw our way forward, this is a really rough time for all of us. but I want to tell you that as a personal matter,

I always turn to Sherilyn whenever I find myself either normalizing or minimizing that which is

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