Hello. Hello and welcome to the working songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop. I'm your host Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest and we ask

them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So whether you're a grizzled veteran

suing Nokia for unpaid ringtone royalties from 2008 or else a scrappy upstart.

Sampling 2008 ringtones for your new career as a tattooed-faced

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