We believe the next step going forward will be the tokenization of financial assets.

People like Larry Fing, CEO of BlackRock, coming out and effectively shilling the idea of tokenization as the future of finance.

When you have someone of that caliber talking about this concept, it just becomes normal.

The total crypto asset value is $2.4 trillion.

You're talking about $16 trillion.

That's a crazy amount of assets to bring into this ecosystem.

Will this be the biggest thing to hit the blockchain?

I do think it is.

The great thing about real-word assets, it's legitimately net new capital coming into the space

rather than just a small group of defy whales who are farming and

leaving and continue to make the rich richer. That's exactly the opposite of the crypto ethos.

A lot of the things that we're building at Mantra actually solves that problem. We're trying to

create an ecosystem that you can participate in new different types of diversified investment

opportunities like private credit, like real estate, maybe even

more products than you didn't have access in the Web 2 world, which becomes a net benefit to the

ecosystem as a whole.

You've been doing this for four plus years.

You guys went from under 100 milval and crossed the billion dollar mark, which is a huge

accomplishment.

Do you believe that if you never quit,

you will always win?

Yes. Now is an opportunity for me as a founder to leave my mark. It's just been one of the

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