Hey everybody, this is Richard Deich, and welcome to the sports media podcast. My producer, as always, is Lou Pellegrino. Two guests this week. First up is John O'Rand of the Sports Business Daily and Sports Business Journal. We have a little bit of a media talk there, including the lineup changes to ESPN, and all the soccer programming that is being purchased by the streaming

services from ESPN Plus to BR Live, etc. So media chatter there. And also we'll talk about Keith

Overman as well and everything that went down with his call of the Yankees and Mets causing a bit of

a social media firestorm. After that, John Smalt call of the Yankees and Mets causing a bit of a social media firestorm.

After that, John Smoltz, the fine MLB Network studio analyst and game analyst, as well as the Fox Sports game analyst.

John Smoltz, of course, with Joe Buck now calls the World Series, and he is an exceptional analyst, and we go pretty deep into his process, why he's in broadcasting, what he enjoys about broadcasting, what he thinks makes a good broadcast.

I think you're going to enjoy that, especially if you're interested in the art of baseball broadcasting.

You will see John Smoltz with Bob Kossis and Tom Verducci.

At the end of this month, Cubs Phillies, August 31st on the MLB Network Showcase,

as well as obviously John Smaltz in the postseason for Fox.

So two guests, John O'Rand up first, and John Smaltz up second, coming up on the Sports Media podcast.

All right, and as I said at the top, we bring in John Orand of the Sports Business Daily and Journal, a frequent guest of this podcast.

And John Oran is on vacation, so he's really doing me a solid here taking some time out of his vacation to speak to these sports media podcast.

John, are you anywhere john are you anywhere are you

anywhere worth mentioning in paris more of a vacation actually staycation yeah beautiful beautiful

maryland like the sounds of the mid-atlantic it's great yeah all right so we got a number of

things to talk about and i um uh i want want to start off with ESPN's afternoon lineup,

because you broke a story a couple days ago, which basically noted the end of sports nation.

I say this with no disrespect.

I don't know how much of a big story it is because I think sort of everything was sort of,

it seemed clear that that show was not long for the earth after all the moves.

But it does lead to an entire new ESPN afternoon lineup in terms of timing with high noon moving from 12 o'clock to 4 o'clock losing a half hour

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