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Hey everybody, welcome back to Black in the Air. This is later one more course.

I know I always say this, but I never know what it's right to say thanks for tuning in or choosing the part. I don't know. I'm too old school to really...

No, touch that dial, right? Yeah.

Exactly. Now, I have limited time today, so I'm not going to be doing my normal intro. Instead, we're going to get right to our special guest.

And you kind of hear him talking right now. But someone I wanted to talk to for a while, he's, you know, author of many books, a New York Times contributor.

And he's also a linguistics professor at Columbia University. And today we're going to discuss this book,

Welk Racism, how New Religion has betrayed Black America. John McWater, welcome to Black in the Air. John's great to have you here.

Thank you for having me, Larry. It's great to meet.

Yeah, absolutely. You know, we've kind of crossed paths in different ways. We've both been on Bill Marshall.

For example, thank you a lot more than me, but...

That type of thing. But I wanted to have you on. I promised the audience that I really want to have all of the discussions about the things we're going through, you know, especially when they're coming from different points of view, which I really am a firm believer in.

I love having discussion. I'm not, I'm never threatened by disagreement. I enjoy disagreement, you know, and I feel like we're in an age of, you know,

a disagreeable disagreement now, you know. And it's, it seems very toxic to me where we can't even discuss things from different points of view without, you know, being arrested for thinking a certain way.

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