Osiris.

Welcome to Wheels Off, a show about the messy reality of the creative life. I'm Rhett Miller.

That's when it got wheels off.

We started ugly ain't gonna stop.

Oh, she made me feel like a good God.

That's when it got wheels off. John McCauley of the band Deertyk is one of my favorite frontmen songwriters, rock and rollers.

A great human being, complicated guy, weird guy.

I don't think he would argue with that assessment.

He's the truth behind the cliche, Still Waters run deep. Though to call John McCauley's Stillwater's Stillwaters is a bit like calling

a tornado a gust of wind. He is, when he gets on stage at least, a tornado. He's crazy

as a frontman, which I love about him. He's like Lux Interior. He's like, you know,

Paul Westerberg on a good night. He's one of those frontmen where you imagine that he was born to do this

thing. He was born to stand on a stage, command an audience, channeled divinity, divine providence,

to insert one of their album titles into this introduction.

He's great.

And I don't think he does a ton of the press for the band.

I think Ian, who's also fantastic, is saddled with doing most of the face man talking work.

And John, when you get him going, you realize there's a lot there.

And I think he gets going pretty well during the course of this interview. I think you're going to love it. I think you're going to get a lot out of it. I know I did. It was good to reconnect with an old friend, and it was really great to get to pick the brain of an artist whom I admire as much as I do, John McCauley from Deer Tick. Welcome to Wheels Off, John McCauley. Hello, my friend. How are you? I'm doing pretty great. Red Miller. Nice to see you.

I won't repeat. You know, I'll tell our audience we had to do a restart for technical issues,

but John and I did have a lengthy discussion about our gold teeth. John, you just got a second

gold tooth. I did last year. It looks so good. It's so sparkly.

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