You're listening to Mystery of 2012, a Sounds True Podcast.

A Sounds True Podcast. episode number one John Major Jenkins on the mind calendar. This week I interviewed John Major Jenkins, a leading researcher on Mayan cosmology and philosophy.

We discussed the significance of the year 2012 from the perspective of the ancient Mayan skyscasers, who used an advanced system

of naked eye astronomy.

Listen in to find out why John Major Jenkins believes that December 21st, 2012 marks the beginning

of a new world age, a period of tremendous change and potential for transformation.

So, John, I've been talking to different authors and luminaries about 2012 and it seems to me that there's two different camps and then people who fall maybe somewhere in between.

But there's one camp of people who are really date specific,

who say changes are going to happen on these dates between now and December 21st, 2012 and we can map these dates from various

calendar systems, etc.

And then there are other people who say, you know, we're in a time of great change, of great evolution.

And you know, it might happen in 2012, it might happen in 2018, we don't really know

there's a wave of change. Where do you fall on this question?

Well, I really think that it's a process-oriented shift, that any kind of shift that's going to

take place is going to require that we rethink our society's institutions and

certainly a shift in consciousness can be behind this

but I really think of long-lasting effective change as happening over a sort of a

revolutionary period. However, on the other hand, when it comes to identifying what the end date of the calendar is, we can afford to be very specific on that because it has to do with the correlation of the Maya calendar with our own.

So, you know, according to the correlation or the reconstruction of the Maya calendar

and how it correlates with our own calendar,

the end of the 13 Bactoon cycle falls on December 21st of 2012.

By making that clear identification,

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