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WEAPONIZED with Jeremy Corbell & George Knapp

John Mack vs. The Inquisition : UFOs, Harvard, and the Search for Truth - Guest : Ralph Blumenthal (PART 2)

WEAPONIZED with Jeremy Corbell & George Knapp

Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp

Science, Society & Culture

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

In the second half of an extended interview Jeremy and George are joined by New York Times journalist Ralph Blumenthal, co-author of the game-changing 2017 UFO story. The trio dive deep into the life of Dr. John Mack, the Pulitzer Prize-winning Harvard psychiatrist who dared to take alien abduction seriously - and paid a steep price for it. The journalists unpack Mack’s desperate fight to preserve his tenure during a secret Harvard 'inquisition' in the 1990s, his courageous expedition to the African town of Ruwa, Zimbabwe, to investigate the astonishing 1994 close encounter witnessed by 60 schoolchildren, and his provocative theories linking UFO incidents to paranormal experiences. Blumenthal pulls back the curtain on a man who saw a universe far stranger than we’re told, from abductions to crop circles and beyond. But the story doesn’t end with Mack. Blumenthal shares insider perspectives on the modern UFO frontier - why whistleblowers still fear coming forward, and the uphill battle for full disclosure in a skeptical world. This episode is a call to arms for independent journalism to uncover what’s really out there, revealing the challenges of reporting the unreportable and the relentless pursuit of the unknown. Follow Ralph's work here : https://RalphBlumenthal.com GOT A TIP? Reach out to us at [email protected] ••• Watch Corbell's six-part UFO docuseries titled UFO REVOLUTION on TUBI here : https://tubitv.com/series/300002259/tmz-presents-ufo-revolution/season-2 Watch Knapp’s six-part UFO docuseries titled INVESTIGATION ALIEN on NETFLIX here : https://www.netflix.com/title/81674441 ••• For breaking news, follow Corbell & Knapp on all social media. Extras and bonuses from the episode can be found at WeaponizedPodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is the biggest government secret of all time. It dwarfs Manhattan Project. Presidents have not been led in on the secret.

0:10.3

In part two of our interview with former New York Times reporter Ralph Blumenthal.

0:14.2

Explore elements of a psyche under hypnosis, by the way. And he did realize that there was some kind of paranormal world out there that he couldn't explain.

0:23.6

You go down the rabbit hole, you think you're chasing flying saucers from other planets, that leads to you to other things.

0:29.6

Taken together, these phenomena tell us many things about ourselves and the universe that challenge the dominant materialist paradigm. As we now know, you don't have to believe in you. They exist.

0:41.3

You don't believe in the moon. You don't believe in the ocean.

0:44.3

They're there. And UFOs are there. The question is, what are they?

0:48.3

They're going to. John Mack had a woman on stage reliving her abduction, screaming, and it was at Harvard, and he didn't care what they thought.

1:07.0

And he was kind of surprised when they called him in and said they were going to investigate him.

1:12.0

He actually went in first without a lawyer, thinking, again, naively, that he would just answer their questions.

1:19.2

And his nephew told me he actually confronted John and said, you've got to be out of your mind.

1:27.2

You can't go into a procedure like this without a lawyer.

1:31.2

So then John got himself, you know, a wonderful pair of lawyers,

1:37.4

including one guy who had broken the priest abuse scandal in Boston.

1:43.8

So anyway, so he got himself good lawyers, but they,

1:49.0

Harvard was very concerned about its reputation.

1:52.8

They were hearing from alumni that this was very bad for Harvard.

1:58.0

It was making Harvard into a laughing stock.

2:04.5

And so they convened this,

2:11.1

I call it an inquisition, because they told John, when they called him in, this is not an inquisition. So being a psychiatrist, he said, well, why are they using a word that they're not doing?

2:19.3

So he fastened on that, and it was an inquisition. They were inquiring into his finances, into his beliefs,

2:24.1

and it was all secret. And by the way, to this day, Harvard has never laid out the documentation for this investigation.

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