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🗓️ 23 January 2017
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Dr. John MacArthur goes verse by verse through Romans 9 and Dr. Leighton Flowers gives the Traditional perspective as a contrast to MacArthur's Calvinistic reading of this hotly contested passage. This broadcast can also be viewed as a video presentation here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG8ourHD9IM
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0:00.0 | It's time for the Soterology 101 podcast, where God is most glorified by his love and provision |
0:08.2 | for all people. |
0:10.0 | Welcome your host, the director of apologetics for Texas Baptists, an adjunct professor |
0:15.1 | of theology, and a local teaching pastor, Dr. Layton Flowers. |
0:20.6 | Welcome to Sotriology 101. Today I Flowers. Welcome to Sociology 101. |
0:21.9 | Today I want to walk through Romans chapter 9 with John MacArthur, listening to his |
0:26.9 | verse by verse kind of going through Romans 9 and he goes up into 11. |
0:30.6 | We'll go as far as we can here. |
0:32.4 | Won't get to it all, obviously. |
0:34.3 | But this is one of the big questions I have because I have so many different Calvinists who say, well, I don't agree with what you represented as our interpretation of |
0:42.3 | Romans 9 in this particular discourse or that particular discourse. And like we've often said, |
0:46.8 | you know, Calvinism is not a monolithic group with just one spokesman who all hold the same |
0:53.1 | exact view. In fact, we've even got some quotes, as we've talked about before, in John |
0:57.9 | Piper's commentary where he actually disagrees. |
1:00.4 | He quotes from John Stott and Leon Morris, who are both Calvinistic, and disagrees with |
1:05.3 | their findings on certain passages within Romans 9. |
1:08.0 | And I'm sure there's probably some differences between maybe John Piper and MacArthur and some of these others as well. And so just as I've argued, I don't think |
1:14.7 | it's ever possible to rightly represent another person's perspective to the, to the satisfaction of |
1:21.7 | every one of those opponents, because Calvinism has different views, just like there are different views even within the |
1:29.7 | non-Calvinistic worldview. There are certain traditionalist Armenian types of argumentations that |
1:36.0 | are different with one another on particular verses. There's nothing wrong with that. |
1:39.6 | It doesn't mean it's necessarily one is necessarily right, one's wrong, just because there's |
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