Quantum computing.

Quantum is going to break crypto.

There's national security at stake here.

Is he going to destroy Bitcoin?

Quantum computers, one of the things that they do well is factoring large numbers.

Somebody with your public key can actually take your Bitcoin, but nobody will know about it.

That's the risk.

When we lever trillions of dollars into our economy

with Bitcoin as the underlying, Bitcoin becomes a military target for the CCP or potentially

as proxies like North Korea, wherein you can do tremendous economic damage to an adversary

by taking Satoshi's coins and moving them around, triggering cascading waves of margin calls and liquidations,

and sending the price of everything trending towards zero.

So what do you think the future looks like?

I think having a strong quantum roadmap towards post-quantum resistance

or post-quantum cryptography will be the most bullish indicator of price.

Because when that time comes, that's where the liquidity is going to go.

And if none of them are ready, all the liquidity is just going to go into post-quantam bank accounts.

I want to get back to your early days with Bitcoin and Ethereum.

Tell me how John Lillick decides to go to New York City.

I met a guy named Nick Spanos.

He started the Bitcoin Center.

He would have us go outside, stand right in front of the stock exchange

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