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I'm David Remnick. On today's Politics and More podcast, my conversation with Congressman John Lewis from last year's New Yorker Festival.

Lewis is the last surviving member of the Big Six, the leaders of the major civil rights organizations that planned the 1963 March on Washington.

Lewis draws on lessons learned during that era as he attempts to affect change within a fractious and deadlocked Congress.

I'd like to begin because I think there may be some people in this room who have never been to Pike County, Alabama,

by asking you to describe your beginnings, just to root us in where you started out, what it was like, your parents.

Just describe it for us.

I grew up in a very large family, six brothers and three sisters,

wonderful mother and wonderful father,

the same community, the same on the same land

that my mother was born on, that my grandfather

and my great-grandfather on my mother's side was born home.

It was dirt poor.

We didn't have running water.

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