Pushkin.

Can you hear me now?

I'm Dr. Lari Santos and I'm devoting the new season of my podcast The Happiness Lab to topics that are dear to my heart with people dear to my heart like my mom.

Wait a minute let me put the TV up. I'll be finding out why I personally struggle so badly with perfectionism, stress,

and even sitting still and doing nothing.

But I feel like I'm bad at boredom because you're bad at boredom.

Yeah, no, I didn't do well with doing nothing.

And once I find out why these things affect me so badly, I'm hoping to do something about it. So join me on my journey, wherever you get your podcasts. John Leventhal is a bit of a secret weapon in music.

Though he started out as a session musician in the 80s, he quickly found writing and producing music for other artists was actually his true calling. That gift is led to six

Grammy Award wins and songs like Sunny came home by Sean Colvin, Mark Kones

walk through the world and crossing to Jerusalem by his wife Roseanne Cash.

John and Roseanne have been married for almost 30 years and over the course of their

union have become great collaborators.

Bruce Edlam talks to John Leventhal in today's episode about the beginning collaborators. out from behind the curtains to release his very first debut album, a beautiful

instrumental project called Rumble Strip. This is Broken Record.

Liner Notes for the digital age.

I'm Justin Richmond.

Here's Bruce Hedlund's conversation with John Leventhal.

So I want to start with your guitar playing. When did it start? It's a little bit of a mystery to me how this

whole thing is unraveled. I mean like a lot of guys my age you know the big bang for me on the deepest

level was the Beatles right so whatever 1964 that year whenever they're

doing everything they're doing there's hits on the radio

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