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John Kerry: The Global Dynamics Of Decarbonization

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🗓️ 17 July 2020

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

The COVID-19 pandemic is expected to cut U.S. carbon emissions by 7.5% in 2020 — exactly the rate needed globally to meet the climate goals outlined in the Paris Agreement. Can other major economies like China and Europe make plans to decarbonize at the same rate without throwing their economies over a cliff? What happens when the world’s top clean energy exporters are also the top greenhouse gas emitters? With post-COVID economic recovery plans taking precedence, will the transition to a clean economy be pushed to the back burner? Guests: John Kerry, Former U.S. Senator and Secretary of State Justin Wu, Head of Asia-Pacific, Bloomberg NEF David Sandalow, Inaugural Fellow, Center on Global Energy Policy, Columbia University Julia Poliscanova, Senior Director of Vehicles & E-mobility, Transport & Environment Lisa Fischer, Senior Policy Advisor, E3G This program was recorded between April 21 and June 26, 2020. Visit our website for complete show notes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

What will it take to get the world's major economies off fossil fuels?

0:06.0

Climate One Conversations explore all dimensions of the climate challenge, the exciting and scary, the individual and systemic.

0:13.0

I'm Greg Dalton.

0:15.0

The purveyors of doubt and lies and distortion have declared war on common sense and science, and we need to fight back.

0:24.7

In late 2019, former U.S. Senator and Secretary of State John Kerry declared a World War Zero on

0:30.8

Carbon Pollution. The name highlights both a national security threat posed by global warming

0:35.9

and the type of wartime mobilization needed to cut carbon emissions.

0:40.4

U.S. emissions are forecast to drop 7% this year, about the rate of decline needed globally to meet the Paris climate commitments.

0:47.7

But can those commitments be met without sending the economy off a cliff like Wiley-E. Coyote in the old cartoons.

0:55.0

Well, the commitment is made if you make a transition and begin to do the things necessary

1:00.5

to not make this the result of a catastrophe, but to make it part of everyday life.

1:05.9

The bet in Paris was that people were going to begin immediately to be able to make that transition.

1:11.7

And for the first two years after Paris, $358 million a year, billion dollars, was invested

1:19.5

in alternative renewable energy.

1:21.3

So for the first time ever, more money began to shift away from fossil fuel and into

1:26.7

sustainable energy. If we had stayed on

1:29.3

that track and the United States had continued to lead, we would be in a position now to begin

1:35.3

to see where you would meet that point where these could be sustainable reductions

1:41.3

in five years, six years, ten years, by bringing online smart grids,

1:47.2

the capacity to send energy from one part of the country to the other, beginning to transition

1:52.1

out of coal into alternative energy sources, large solar fields, wind, wind farms, hydrogen fuel mixed with hydro and geothermal and other things.

2:07.2

But none of that planning, none of it, has taken place with the hand of the partnership

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